[edit]I made my own little player books, containing a riff-raff of info they might need. Might not be very good, but still, what do you think...

I think you should take "to do it, do it" to heart and extrapolate that "to learn to play Apocalypse World, play Apocalypse World"... it's the easiest way and I'd even say it's a *better* way to learn to play, for non-MC players, than reading the book.

The tri-fold Moves playbook in the playbook .pdf is a little less intimidating than 12 pages of "read these rules", I'd say.  It's much easier, in my experience, to explain things and answer questions as players are looking at the character playbooks during a first session than doing a pre-game explanation.

And, don't worry about a lack of action; the MC moves *demand* action... and your players will shock you with their actions in response... that snowball with grow and grow and grow!  *laugh*

Best of luck exploring Apocalypse World!

-Getting gigs could work, but a Viper having a sort of job isn´t exactly part of my concept. Maybe if the group explains it as getting a crew and putting them to work...

Don't look at it as a "job", but as the Viper working behind the scenes to get things done... either directly, or through their crew... bringing home the sweet jingle...

The player will do it to do it and it'll all be cool...

-A sharp +1 (+3 max) to replace the other advancement would be nice. It was a move I thought the viper lacked, but recently I saw the Angel and he´s got it as an advancement, not a special move.

It's not a move for the Angel so that other PCs can't snag it as a "Move from another playbook"... but it's totally valid as an advancement!

Oops, double post.

"Hi, I'm the Viper."

I guess it depends on your age...

"The Viper is coming..."

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Punchline - if you want to cut to the chase...

I agree that the name's needing an upgrade, but Chroma's suggestions sound kinda benign.

Sounding benign is the name of the game!  *laugh*  

It's putting a friendly and trustworthy face forward... then backstab!

Hey all!

Recently had our Savvyhead change to a Hoarder on their 6th improvement and it raised a question about whether they still had access to ungiven future advances or whether they'd have to do get another five improvements as the new character type before they opened up again or were they always available once one gets to their initial 6th advancement.

I'm partial to having the PC need to gain the five improvements as the new character, settling in to their new role/outlook/life, but I'd like to hear other thoughts and could be easily swayed.

Very well done, got a good laugh out of me!

And where do Love Letters come into play, in that it's quite easy to put a character right into a situation they may not have consented to? I'm really very curious what you all think about this! Where is the line for you?

That line... might not even exist!  *laugh*

I've got an upcoming love letter for a PC boils down to two options for them: swear alliegance or die.

The PC in question has been doped up, restrained and handed over to an enemy, essentially, trussed up with a bow... all by another PC; the captive PC certainly didn't consent to any of this, but when you put your life in the hands of a pissed off Angel, you're never sure where you'll wake up.

The love letter will allow for an option between two moves: 1) submit, but cut a deal or 2) don't submit and be executed on the spot... but at least you stood by your principles.  It was a shocking turn of events, but the story simply progressed this way; the icing on the cake being the Angel reminiding everyone that they had designated the captured PC as "someone doomed to destruction" and everyone oohed and ahhed and how it had turned out.

The thing is, you *always* have to allow a player options, even in *almost* untenable situations... I'm really looking forward to see what the player does.