Yeah, the Vampire move.

It looks like it largely just makes things kinda worse. Any time you shut someone down, you lose an extra string or gain an extra condition, along with the target getting the same. It just seems to make the Vampire's life harder to no significant benefit. I'm going to go ahead and assume I'm missing something, either mechanically or thematically. Someone care to lend a hand on this?

Cheers all ;)

If the entire party tries to sneak into the wizards tower undetected however, everyone is essentially acting despite an eminent threat (Defy Danger trigger), which means that everyone must roll to Defy Danger. From the book:

I disagree that everyone is necessarily acting despite eminent threat. A combination of "what have a threatened them with" and "how do they intend to sneak in" may determine that it's otherwise.

That said, to more directly answer the question of "how would you handle it?" I wouldn't let it get there if at all possible, and if it actually ended up that the most appropriate thing was for everyone to individually roll DD, well, then they roll it and get individual results.

All I do is make a front. Usually takes about 20-30 minutes, unless I want to make custom moves or monsters. Then it reaches around an hour to an hour and a half. Then, only set the stage, don't prescribe action.Basically just make an interesting situation that threatens  the PCs in some capacity.

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These are all fantastic answers. For number 1 I'd also add "and also depends on what the thief did to trip the ogre, and how we narrated it falling"  to it, but that's pretty much it.

Also, #4 is just plain fantastic. Can I play at your table, Threlicus?

I think all in all, the thrust of what is being said is if you want mechanical bonuses, aid; If you want better fictional options, do something fantastic, and probably have someone else aid too ;)

Edit: not that aid shouldn't change the fictional position, too, just that for clear mechanical bonus this is where you turn.

As far as number 5, hack and slash or defy danger work well. I might even call it a sneak attack if the thief had positioned himself that the move was coming out of nowhere. All good solutions, depending on what exactly is said.

I've just reread page 20 ("First Edition, November 2012"), and I don't see this rule.  Closest it comes is "A character without a weapon of some sort isn’t going to trigger the hack and slash move when fighting a dragon since a bare-knuckle punch really doesn’t do much to inch-thick scales."  Which is fine, but in my world a heroic Fighter *can* kill a mook with his bare hands, even if the mook is wearing leathers.  One point of damage, flat, seems low to me.

Mi culpa. I just backed up my computer after a nuke-and-pave and had an old version. You're right, that text is long gone. It then comes down to a combination of the standard answers of "fictional positioning," "make it feel real," and "be a fan."

while it sounds like I'm a fan of auto-hit, it's much more like noclue's approach. I just assume that it's the thief's turn rather than the thief interjecting on the fighter's turn, and I have different implied fiction. Heck, come to it, depending on the fiction, I'd likely tell the thief to roll their damage as pay of the trip. But still, depends on what exactly is happening. Coming from Burning Wheel stock and remembering my roots, I really dislike ruling on hypotheticals  ;-) I know it sounds like a cop out, but it really does come down to "fictional positioning, and look to your principles."

So, you're actually giving him a hard bargain with the success on what Bob aimed out for on one scale? And a hard move on the.. very same scale where the success is? IMO that's like saying "You rolled 7-9, now pick both 10+ and miss results or neither." And if the player chooses neither, he's really in stagnation, which is not how the rules are supposed to work. Right?

I disagree that he's in stagnation. Something happens regardless, depending on what the player says next. Also, I don't feel it's a particularly hard move, so I don't feel its a  miss result. Maybe your misses are nicer than mine, because for my games that's hardly even a consequence. Anyway, essentially it's me turning it into a 7-9 on H&S with alternate damage (the disarming) and a choice to pull back at the last second and do something else, which may or may not trigger a move depending. Anyway, maybe I'd more likely say "You can wrest the sword out of the opponent's hand, but you'll be leaving yourself wide open to the wolf. Otherwise, you can shove the dude away by the sword and leave him with it and focus on the wolf while he get's his bearings. The choice is yours." Maybe not, though, cause I know that my players will leave themselves pretty much every time.

Also what zmook says.

Well, I just played a session in a Game Of Thrones hack blending AW and MH. We all picked super social playbooks and it felt really good, if a little rough. We're working on some ways to file off the rough bits, but it definitely works so far.