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Apocalypse World / Re: Why are grenades at hand range?
« on: September 07, 2010, 05:01:15 PM »
There you go, quoting the rules to explain how things work according to the rules.

Kidding.  Truthfully, it makes more sense therefore to call it close than hand.  Or do like Vx said and consider a "thrown" range.  I mean, clearly a pistol has longer range than a thrown knife, but a thrown knife and thrown grenade should travel about as far, and that should be farther than you can swing a knife in your hand.

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Apocalypse World / Re: Why are grenades at hand range?
« on: September 07, 2010, 02:17:47 PM »
I read "hand" as "within about 20 yards".  Close enough to charge and swipe, or toss a grenade and get to cover, but not to blow across a good hundred or so yards (pistol/shotgun range) and avoid getting shot.

Video games are absurdly poor examples of the behavior of real weapons.  Grenades can be thrown to about 30 yards max, while a shotgun with a good stock and decent barrel can have an effective range out to about 100 yards (the same as a pistol, or actually a bit longer).  The shotgun in video games has a truly stupid spread because it's "interesting" or what people "expect"; in reality, buckshot doesn't spread much beyond about two feet in diameter (a bit bigger than a dinner plate, say), even from a sawed-off.  The real limiter in range is how well you can aim the thing; with no stock or front sight you're not hitting much beyond spitting distance.

Also, hi.  :)

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