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barf forth apocalyptica => Apocalypse World => Topic started by: mcdaldno on February 23, 2011, 02:37:23 AM

Title: The Hoarder
Post by: mcdaldno on February 23, 2011, 02:37:23 AM
So, Vincent released a new Apocalypse World playbook: The Hoarder.

For those who're interested, it's part of a rad $10 charity bundle (which also includes Perfect Unrevised, btw): here (http://twoscooterspress.com/2011/02/buy-the-sight-benefit-bundle-today/).

This is one of my favourite playbooks yet. Of all the special-release playbooks (Maestro D', Faceless, Quarantine, Hoarder), I'm most excited about The Hoarder.

I'm a little unthrilled about A Spoonful of Sugar, mostly because I don't get an immediate sense of how to use it - how the mechanics lead into the fiction, or the fiction leads into the mechanics. I guess it's only for use in circumstances where you're bribing the guards in order to help your friend sneak into the fort, etc, etc... but either way it seems like a scene-level move, and not an action-level move.

If I were to play a Hoarder, I'd be tempted to take Acquisitive Eye and Appraising Eye, along with the stat-block that gives me Sharp+2. The idea of simply reducing the world to a collection of objects, of seeing every situation and every opponent as a cache of  valuables... so good.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Chroma on February 23, 2011, 08:27:30 AM
So, Vincent released a new Apocalypse World playbook: The Hoarder.

For those who're interested, it's part of a rad $10 charity bundle (which also includes Perfect Unrevised, btw): here (http://twoscooterspress.com/2011/02/buy-the-sight-benefit-bundle-today/).

Seems somewhat humourous to release "The Hoarder" in a charity bundle... *laugh*

I'll see what I and my group can do.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: lumpley on February 23, 2011, 09:27:19 AM
(http://lumpley.com/apocalypse/graphics/hoarder-72.jpg)
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Michael Pfaff on February 23, 2011, 10:15:46 AM
How does acquisition of the PDFs work? Is a single person handling the mailing out of them? Are they loaded on an FTP site for download? How does that work?
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: lumpley on February 23, 2011, 11:29:41 AM
Elizabeth has them all in a zip file on dropbox.com, and she emails you a link to it.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Michael Pfaff on February 23, 2011, 11:31:03 AM
Right on! Thanks.

More information from the link:

The games are:

    * Mars Colony, by Tim Koppang
    * Polaris, by Ben Lehman
    * Remember Tomorrow, by Gregor Hutton
    * Murderland, by Elizabeth Shoemaker
    * Perfect, Unrevised by Joe McDaldno— along with all the reference sheets
    * Geasa, by Jonathan Lavalee
    * And a special, bundle-only Apocalypse World character class: THE HOARDER,  by D. Vincent Baker

This bundle is only $10 for all six games, so please donate! This offer will only be for a limited time, and all funds go to Karla and her daughter.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Joe Beason on February 23, 2011, 11:50:17 AM
The Hoarder really disturbs me, much more than the Brainer or Faceless.   I was going to bring it to my game on Thursday, but I'm not sure I want to give my MC inspiration for new Threats. 
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Evan Torner on February 23, 2011, 01:13:16 PM
All games I don't own.  I'm totally happy to donate, and have done so.

Just don't let that Hoarder guy stick a fork in my eye.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: octoscott on February 23, 2011, 01:25:37 PM
Love the hoarder!  Now I need a new game in which to try one. (Or to earn that 6th advance)
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: John Mc on February 23, 2011, 07:11:32 PM
Just to make sure: both the secretive and the non-secretive Hoarder give +1 Hx to everyone?

I assumed the secretive one would give -1 Hx, but I'll go with the text unless told otherwise.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: lumpley on February 23, 2011, 07:51:36 PM
Both give +1Hx to everyone.

In case anyone here is wondering too, here's psi-harm (http://lumpley.com/comment.php?entry=568#11).
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: John Mc on February 23, 2011, 09:04:17 PM
Thanks Vincent!
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: mcdaldno on February 23, 2011, 09:09:07 PM
Just to make sure: both the secretive and the non-secretive Hoarder give +1 Hx to everyone?

I assumed the secretive one would give -1 Hx, but I'll go with the text unless told otherwise.

John, imagine that you had a giant hoard of scavenged things that you spoke to.
Now imagine that you suddenly went silent whenever someone else entered the room.
Imagine you went to great lengths to conceal what your hoard of stuff contained.

Now, imagine how much people just learned about you, by observing this behavior.
Imagine how easy it is for them to help you or hinder you, now.

+1Hx makes total sense.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Jim Crocker on February 24, 2011, 03:12:09 AM
All games I don't own.  I'm totally happy to donate, and have done so.

Just don't let that Hoarder guy stick a fork in my eye.

He's gonna stick it in one of those crazy mushrooms. That might be an eyeball. When ya eat 'em ya kin see Jesus.

-JC
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: lumpley on February 24, 2011, 07:46:48 AM
Yay!
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Christopher Weeks on February 24, 2011, 01:02:21 PM
hoard-debt looks like it can go negative.  That's the design, right?
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: lumpley on February 24, 2011, 01:34:05 PM
Yes!

If you never use your hoard and always feed it, it'll go negative. There's no set lower bound, but the mechanics won't let it go below -5 and won't let it easily go below -3.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: John Harper on February 24, 2011, 03:37:51 PM
I love this:
- I can give things away as gifts, and they probably come back to me later.
- When I take a thing from my hoard, it expects I give it back.

That is an invitation to trouble in the best way.

I want to play my Tom Waits hoarder so bad.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: kaiserjez on February 25, 2011, 04:56:42 AM
I was gonna donate anyway but when I saw there was a new playbook it was a given!
And it's a pretty good playbook too. Winner!
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Pooka on April 07, 2011, 04:08:48 PM
Okay, a bit late to the party, but I have a question...

Is there a reason that Ambiguous and Transgressing aren't options for this playbook? Are hoarders only Man, Woman, or Concealed? Or is this an oversight?
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Michael Loy on April 09, 2011, 09:46:07 PM
I'm curious.  Appraising Eye modifies read a sitch and read a person so that you can ask specific questions "in addition to your other questions".

Am I adding those questions to my lists, and I can spend hold to ask them, as normal?  Or does that mean that I spend hold on my questions ... and then I can also ask the Appraising Eye question?
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Pooka on April 10, 2011, 07:49:40 AM
Or does that mean that I spend hold on my questions ... and then I can also ask the Appraising Eye question?

Yeah, this. It's a free ask.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: ctrail on April 10, 2011, 02:00:44 PM
That's funny, I read it the other way. In addition to your other questions you may ask x, I read as you may spend hold to ask a question, in addition to the other questions you may ask this one.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Michael Loy on April 10, 2011, 02:26:20 PM
I read it as a free ask too, but yeah.  It can definitely be read either way, so I thought I should check what it is officially.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Pooka on April 10, 2011, 02:36:57 PM
It's written in an ambiguous manner, to be sure. But I think simply adding an option to reading a sitch or person is really weak for a move. That's why I presumed it was a free ask, and would play it that way in game.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: lumpley on April 10, 2011, 04:41:48 PM
They're free asks.
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: Michael Loy on April 10, 2011, 05:08:48 PM
Sweet.

(That was my feeling too, Pooka.)
Title: Re: The Hoarder
Post by: ctrail on April 11, 2011, 11:56:45 PM
Cool, that wasn't how I read it but I think I actually like the move a little better that way. Seemed weak the way I understood it.